期待已久的邂逅------小评UE民用三单元动铁耳塞Triple.fi 10Pro

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怎么感觉刚才老刘和小白的辩论好像----------------“月圆之夜、紫禁之颠。。。。。。。。。。。”不知道谁像小西谁像小叶。。。。。。。。。

mybestteam

原帖由 小白 于 2008-11-19 20:59 发表
刘版主和我听感甚为不同. 我认为SHURE SE210,SE310都不满意,我只满意SE420和SE530两款. SE420性价比非常好,SE530则是令我总体最满意的入耳式耳塞.

但是舒尔的线材太有问题了，基本上肯定要坏要裂的，即使行货保修起来也太麻烦了，不知道白版和刘版有什么建议？还有听说TF10的质量也不太好，会外壳掉漆，这么贵的东西质量好像都不怎么样丫。。。。

小白

谁说"基本肯定要坏要裂"? 大多数SHURE耳塞的使用者2年甚至更长时间都线材毫无问题. 我这里的样机(每个型号一只)都用了2年以上,一副也没有出过问题. 都是各人的使用习惯决定的.

刘嘉明

原帖由 小白 于 2008-11-19 22:51 发表
恩,台式纯CD机音源. 随身听音源实在是难找满意的. 有些Discman老机还算不错,但也一定要LINE OUT接Voyager耳放,直推还是不满意的.

没听过白版所说的耳扩,我听SE530也不多.感觉量稍多,声音偏厚.

小白

对,SE530声音是浑厚丰满型的. 前端良好和驱动良好时,也有足够的通透度,所以我说很接近优秀的大耳机的效果.

qqchan14

从小白的听音取向来讲：肯定喜欢SE530，味道很浓郁又比较均衡的感觉，确实接近大耳机但我感觉全方位不如大耳机。
TF10没听过，不发表评论，谢谢嘉明的介绍。
ER4B其实很吃前端，我一直认为它偏瘦，低频不够，最近上了台式耳放，完全改观了。
嘉明那个喝汤的比喻实在太妙！

qqchan14

我自己喜欢4B多些，但长时间小音量聆听，可能还是SE530更好。所以我两个都有。

刘嘉明

呵呵，萝卜青菜各有所爱。其实喜欢什么样的耳塞，和听音习惯/口味有很大关联。只要找到合适自己的，就已经不错了。

137470785

恩。。现在如果有米的话在外面也一般都是随身听听流行+10Pro。。在家的话就是IPC+XO+ +AKG271MKII听班得瑞国家公园等等的。。恩。。现在AKG的701还没听过。。买XO+的时候赢得是271MKII感觉听班得瑞是一种新的感受。。很舒服很喜欢。。不过估计前期能有钱买10Pro就很高兴了。。

regit

期待2位版主对W3的评论...个人觉得TF10最大的问题是配戴一般,隔音一般,三频衔接不好,音乐性一般,戴着的样子比较囧.

regit

原帖由 小白 于 2008-11-19 20:59 发表
刘版主和我听感甚为不同. 我认为SHURE SE210,SE310都不满意,我只满意SE420和SE530两款. SE420性价比非常好,SE530则是令我总体最满意的入耳式耳塞.

小白喜欢SE530的话,相信一定会喜欢W3的,HeadFi上,HeadphoneAddict关于W3的小评
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/5051083-post359.html

If you saw my mini-review of the Shure vs prototype Westone 3 on 10//3/07 in the big Westone thread, then that comment would not be such a big surprise. These final production Westone 3 are every bit as good as I remember the Prototypes being. http://www.head-fi.org/forums/3314352-post1503.html

Around that same time I rated my Livewires customs as being slightly better than the Shure E500/SE530, but I didn't have them with me for the demo of the Westone 3 because they were being re-dipped to make the fit tighter. And I liked the Livewires better than my Triple.fi 10 Pro this January as well, and sold them within 2 weeks. With the Livewires there was a degree of transparency and realism that the Shure and Triple.fi did not offer, although the SE530 had a bigger soundstage than the Triple.fi and could come close to the head-stage of the Livewires.

After I converted my SE530 into customs and tuned for less bass and better treble, they came back sounding very similar to my Livewires. So I know the SE530's stock sound was simply how Shure decided to "tune" them. Until now, the only universal IEM to come close to my ideal has been the Klipsch Image X10 that I bought in July, which I sold less than 24 hours after hearing the final production Westone 3. After listening to the Westone 3 for an hour and then switching to the the Klipsch, I actually felt the Klipsch sounded thin and bodyless vs the Westone 3. Once my ears acclimated without the Westone 3 for 30 minutes, the Klipsch sounded good again, but switching from the Westone 3 to the Klipsch was simply striking after getting used to the Westone 3.

I am still evaluating the Westone 3 for my review, and have only tried two different pairs of universal tips that I previously had liked with the Shure SE530 - the Complys P-100 foam tips and some cut down triple flanges that I took off the smallest flange off the tip and shortened the stalk. I have also tried my Westone UM-56 custom fit tips. NOTE: I still have not tried ANY of the tips that came with the Westone!

At this point I have to say my favorite tip with the Westone 3 is my Westone UM-56 custom tips, followed by the Complys P-style foam tips (will try the T-series next). The modded bi-flange that I liked with the SE530 I don't like so much with the Westone 3 (so will also try the stock triple flange soon). I was having trouble inserting the UM-56 into my ears after all this time of not using them while waiting for Westone 3 to be released, until I looked at my Livewires realized that I was trying to insert the UM-56 tips upside-down and 180 degrees off. LOL.

With the UM56 the Westone 3 sit nice and flush in my ears, and they tuck-in 100% better than my SE530 did with the same tips. Within a week of owning the UM-56 last September I snapped the sound nozzle off one of my SE530 earpieces while sleeping with them in. There is NO way that can happen to the Westone 3 with the nice snug and flush fit I have - they tuck in as well as they do with any universal tip that is included. Mine fit flawlessly - not loose or too tight of a seal, and isolation is tremendous.

Now, for those eager for a "spoiler" to my review - I will say that at this point (with my Westone UM-56 custom tips) the Westone 3 are THE best universal IEM I have ever heard (I have not compared to any of my three pairs of customs yet as it takes time to do these reviews). The frequency balance with the UM-56 tips could not be better, and it is like they were make for each other (they were actually).

HOWEVER, the Westone 3 sound changes a lot with the different universal tips that I did try, and I find some small compromise in different areas with two different tips that I have tried so far. The P-series Complys that Dale at Westone donated to me on 10/3/07 are close in sound to the UM-56 custom tips but with less treble and more bass (but detail is still there). The Shure triple flanges cut short to a bi-flange with a shorter stalk have less bass and more treble than the UM-56, and in the process become less romantic or euphonic sounding. Up next I have to try all the stock tips that come with the Westone 3, including Complys T-series foam tips, single flange and the triple flange with the long stalks intact.

刘嘉明

呵呵...............W3应该没这么快可以听到。