PC Hifi--音乐传真 V-DAC DAC是否值得购入

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原帖由 boava 于 2009-3-31 07:29 发表
我也看到你的头像了，最近看了个电影，MR73，看到这个头像有灰暗的记忆。

这部电影还真狠，给你留了个灰暗的记忆。看来是大片哦~~~

洱机

大家不要把注意力放在头像，放在问题上啊 .......

洱机

来看看吧 不过不是我的头像 .........

snoopy007

那么便宜的东西能好么？都说了一分价钱一分货。

洱机

开始没领悟出来，不好意思啦

斯瓦辛格开坦克

听过,声音柔和,清晰, 低频控制出色,是一款不错的机器. 中国应该是没卖的,要是有可能会卖到3000以上,美国好像折合人民币3500的样子,最近又涨价了.

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原帖由 snoopy007 于 2009-4-2 07:58 发表
那么便宜的东西能好么？都说了一分价钱一分货。

别以为贵就好,da10,mini dac 这些在美国售价5000的样子, 在中国卖你8000. 你就觉得好了, 这个机子是不算贵, 一些功能省掉了,带有的就是很实用,比如usb接口接电脑,q其实就是拿给你听音乐,节约成本.可是声音时超值的. 如果要是国内有卖,不会低于3000

洱机

谢谢斯瓦辛格兄，看来这个还是挺不错的东西
就因为想上dac，但是3小强又太贵，无奈啊
斯瓦辛格兄是听时是什么音源，耳放和耳机啊？
可记得？

斯瓦辛格开坦克

三小强听过其中2个分别是 mini dac 和 dac1， 后者声音发紧，发干，而且售价在国内很高，不划算。 mini dac 不错，圆润，可惜就是国内售价还是偏高， 因为他们三个应该都是6000左右的东西，三小强有耳机口如果已经有二房了大可不必。

当时老板店里用的是 cec cd机和solo green 推的hd 650，对她的声音是比较满意的，圆润， 清晰，低频量不多但是控制力很好，总体来说比较平衡吧。  听head fi上的人说usb接口输出也不错。 这个机器好像在美国卖3000多人民币， 本想托人从美国带一个，可惜好像电源电压不一样，他们是110v的。所以计划就耽搁了， 不知道中国会卖多少，估计不便宜

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mifeng

dac1声音倒没感觉发紧和干，ls当时听的啥前端驱动啥扬声器？

斯瓦辛格开坦克

相对的， 因为它太强调解析， 韵味就少了些，和另外两个比音乐性就不好，听久了累， 反正我不喜欢它。

当时用的是 cambridge 840c 加Corda的simphony推ed9和w5000

斯瓦辛格开坦克

没用它推过箱子，那时另外一回事。 有时候和推耳机区别还蛮大的

mifeng

嗯，840c本身也是味道淡的，大概和dac1是不太搭
我觉得dac1是一个“前端味”特别重的解码，中低频稍微有点点平

斯瓦辛格开坦克

几个烧友的评论：
I've been listening to mine all afternoon and I have to say that I'm totally thrilled with it. Mp3's that once sounded thin and compressed have body and color that wasn't there before (listening via usb connection 320kbs mp3). I don't know if it's neutral, but it is just so lush and smooth - I like! With uncompressed Flac files through Foobar, the sound is absolutely immaculate - was just listening to some Reference Recordings from HDtracks and I'm just floored....awesome. So far, I have no problems with this puppy.

Overall, I'd say the sound signature is warm, while still being extended in the bass and treble - pretty bassy actually. While I haven't listened through my headphones cause I'm so happy with the sound out of my hi-fi rig, I'm pretty confident I'll be happy when I hook my headphone amp to it.

Oh yeah, Thank God I have such an awesome wife - she gave it to me for my B-day.

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btw, I hooked up the v-dac to my x-10 v3 = sounds awesome. Oh yeah, also hooked my arcam cd73 to it via spidif....still can't decide which I like better. The v-dac is more lush and sweeter than the arcam dac. The Arcam is a little more detailed, but thinner and brighter. I have to say that I'm leaning towards the v-dac, which means I got two upgrades out of it! Also cool because I get tube sound through both computer and cd - sweet!
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My V-DAC arrived yesterday, finally! I baught the QED signature coax cable also, to get the most of this new set-up.
My initial impressions: very transparant and good definition, many details without any digital harshness in treble!
My A to B comparison (CD DAC vs V-DAC is not 100% correct due to different interlinks, though both are high quality): whereas the V-DAC delivers more of what I described above, my CD player has more weight / authority / pressured sound (expressing audio in another language is no easy task). Perhaps this sounding is a singular quality of my classic CD player (SONY CDP 779ES: made in 1992), since it has huge powersupplies for both the digital and the analogue stages. Also, I attached an excellent powercord and plug to my CD player, absent from the V-DAC. Now I miss that sense of scale with the V-DAC, that cannot simply be restored by increasing lows on the amp or subwoofer. Any suggestions anybody, what might help here?
This is not so much criticism to the V-DAC, since I believe it delivers true value for the bucks.

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I have to go along with that conclusion. The DacMagic sounds less enjoyable than the V-DAC. A bit difficult to detect on classical music, but more modern fast transient records exposes a softness in the DacMagic that makes it unbearable to listen to for me through speakers. The air movement in the bass region is far too woolly. The V-DAC does a better job of it, but it lacks pace and depth. Crescendos and sudden dynamic range explosive burst seem toned down.
That's after 4 days of burning in. I'll retake the tests at the end of the coming week and see if the results are still the same.

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Well I chime in. I have had the V-Dac for 3 days and used it for about 20 hours. My comparison is with Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic and Asus Xonar D2X. I like the warmth and engaging sound signature, I even noticed those punchy highs anadin talked about, but PRAT seems somewhat off for sure. It is quite detailed and clear, i picked up more microdetails with it than with my other equipment.Bass could be better and have more weight. Xonar has that PRAT I crave for, but it is too neutral for my taste and could be more engaging. If only there would be DAC that could have all the positive traits of Xonar D2X and V-Dac for about the same money - it would be steal money wise. I will continue burning in my V-DAC, but tbh I don't expect miracles to happen. I have never heard CA DAcmagic, but the way it is described makes me precautious. Seems that it sound signature is closer to Xonar and it has more flexibility with different input and output options. I had hopes that this would end my lust for new audio gear, but it seems that I have to save more for MHDT Havana or Paradisea + /3 DAC  .

斯瓦辛格开坦克

如果是这样， 就不适合低烧。