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[pc-fi软件] 走访台湾“音悦音响”,用HD650比较了英、德三台耳放。(一)

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发表于 2007-5-1 13:15:45 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式

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这段日子身在台湾,昨日闲来无事,走访了“音悦音响”一趟,想购置套HD650系统作探究,了却一个心愿“深海梦”。

店员态度殷勤亲切,当我说明来意后,示意我到唱片架里挑选喜爱音乐,并主动地把我指定的3台耳放打开电源预热。

3台耳放分别是英国Graham Slee - SOLO



規格:
SPL gain into 32Ω: +15dB
SPL gain into 300Ω: +16dB
SPL gain into 600Ω: +14dB
Input Sensitivity: 125mV into 30kOhms
Frequency Response: 12Hz (-.5dB) to 100 kHz (-3dB) at half power
Distortion: 0.01% at half power
Signal to noise: 89dB
Headphone Impedance: Optimized for 30 to 600 Ω
Dimensions: 4.1 x 2 x 7.1 (WxHxD in inches)
Weight: 5 lbs.

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德国 Audio valve  RKV MKII





Specifications:

OTL - transformer outless tube amplifier
Double mono construction
Alps volume control
1 pair 6,3 mm stereo jacket for headphones
Tubes: 4 * PCL 805 (PCL 85 or 18 GV 8 - german old TV "vertikal" ampl. tube )
Power output: each channel 3 watt SINUS,  ( between 100 to 400 ohm loads )  
Bandwide: 15 - 100 000 hz
amping 3600 !
Distortion 0,002 % at 1 Watt-200 Ohm load
Max. output voltage 80V
Sens. 0dBm
IC - fullautom. - controlled bias
Class - A
Power consumption 40 watt
Size 360*200*120 mm (d.w.h.)
Weidht 10kg

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德国 CORDA OPERA - Analog

  



2 headphone outputs
( 0/120 Ohm output impedance ).
Maximum output 13V / 500 mA.
Gain switch. Maximum gain factors -5 / +8 dB.
Crossfeed filter switch:
1. Stereo / crossfeed OFF
2. Crossfeed ON

2 pairs of analog inputs
Input impedance 12 kOhm

1 digital S/PDIF input
1 digital USB-input
1 pair of volume-controlled preamplifier outputs.

Gold-plated input jacks.
Silver plated headphone jacks (Neutrik).
Silver plated heavy duty switches
Alps Blue potentiometer for volume control.
25 Watts toroidal transformer for the analog section.
7 Watts toroidal transformer for the digital section.
110V and 220V mains power switchable.
Power uptake 12 Watts
Built-in groundloop breaker.
Schottky rectifying diodes in the power supply.
Double regulated voltage lines.
Low impedance electrolytic buffer capacitors (Nichicon).
Total Buffer capacity 80.000 uF.
Bypass capacitors in the power supply.
Polystyrol and polypropylen capacitors in the signal path.
Metalfilm resistors in the signal path.
Double sided PCB
LM6171 opamps biased into class-A using LM334 current sources.
2 BUF634 buffer amplifiers at left and right headphone output channel.
(Active) balanced headphone ground
3 BUF634 buffer amplifiers at the balanced ground headphone output channel.
PCM2704 as USB-to-S/PDIF receiver
CS8420 as S/PDIF receiver (in high-jitter-reduction mode)
PCM1794 D/A converter-chip.
LM6171 opamps biased into class-A for I-V conversion.
Sampling frequencies / resolution
8..96 kHz / 16, 20, 24 bit (S/PDIF)
32, 44.1, 48 kHz / 16 bit (USB)
Star-grounding.
Ultra short signal paths.
Signal paths and signal path components at the bottom side of the PCB for maximal shielding.
Sturdy aluminium enclosure
Weight: 3.9 kg.
Size: 27.6 x 27.8 x 8,7 cm.




待续..............................


[ 本帖最后由 Pan 于 2008-7-13 09:50 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-5-1 13:45:05 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 小白 于 2007-5-1 13:37 发表
CORDA这个耳机放大器是德国人JAN MEIER的产品,不是美国的.

AUDIO VALVE这个耳放我是第一次听说.



谢谢更正,已改。

[ 本帖最后由 Pan 于 2009-2-16 00:31 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-2-16 00:29:39 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 yangmetal 于 2009-2-15 23:48 发表
rkv看来是07年pan大试过的,没有后文了吗?


        那時期政治敏感,三台機裡以SOLO表演最差,本來也合理,正合了“一分錢一分貨”道理,因为三台耳放里最便宜的也是SOLO。

        当时就怕某些有心人以这篇比试拿SOLO开涮,爱屋及乌,也就没有下文了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-2-16 10:52:33 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 frank007 于 2009-2-16 10:41 发表
CORDA没听过,SOLO对RKV,死得惨~~~~


推HD650,SOLO对RKV,不惨。

倒是对CORDA OPERA,SOLO和RKV都死得很惨。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-2-16 11:09:25 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 古惑的机器猫 于 2009-2-16 11:05 发表
Pan大对Corda评价很高嘛。记得你原来发过一篇“看得见的声音”,就是用来形容Corda Opera的吧?



我对Corda OperaHD650的评价是:『无框的空间感,看得见的声音。』
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-2-16 11:31:48 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 pieryu 于 2009-2-16 11:19 发表

看音悦音响对Corda Opera音场的描述是这样


我很认同这段描述,当时用来聆听JAZZ乐和室乐,我如置身其中听现场演奏。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-2-18 11:54:22 | 显示全部楼层
Shootout: Beyerdynamic A1 vs. Meier-Audio Corda Opera.





JensL
100+ Head-Fi'er

I’ve yet again been so fortunate to borrow a Beyerdynamic A1 amp.
And this time I could compare it to my own Meier-Audio Corda Opera. :-)


Equipment used:

Sources:
- PC with a Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic (optical/Coax cable to DAC/Opera).
- Foobar 0.9.4.2 with ASIO 1.2.4 (I also tried without ASIO).
- Lite DAC60 tube DAC. Modded quite a bit, and good tubes are used.

Amplifiers:
- Beyerdynamic A1 ($1300).
- Meier-Audio Corda Opera ($1100+)

Cables:
- Cardas 300-B Micro interconnects.
- Amphenol interconnects (included with the A1 amp).
- Headphone cables are all stock.

Headphones:
- Beyerdynamic DT990-32 (Beyer Manufacture custom).
- Beyerdynamic DT770-32 (Beyer Manufacture custom). Leather pads.
- Beyerdynamic DT770-250 Pro+Light Edition 2005 (Limited Edition)
- Beyerdynamic DT880 (Previous version).
- Audio-Technica ATH-W1000.

All headphones are well-used, so there’s shouldn’t be any issues regarding burn-in.
The same goes for both amps, they’ve got 400-500 hours of use.

Music used:
Mostly WAVs and MP3s (ÜberStandard), but also a DVD-Audio (“Imaginary Day” by Pat Metheny)
Some of the artists:
- Mark Knopfler
- Ani DiFranco
- Opeth
- Massive Attack
- Rage Against the Machine
- Faithless
- Pink Floyd
- Dream Theater
- Patricia Barber
- Steve Vai
- Niacin

Some info on the testing procedure
For most of this test, I used the Lite DAC60 connected to the Opera, which is then connected to the A1. This makes it fast and easy to switch between the two amps, using the same source. I tried connecting the A1 directly to the DAC60, but I couldn’t hear any differences from when it was routed through the Opera.

The modified Lite DAC60 is a very nice DAC. Nice, smooth, tubey midrange and highs, and a very dynamic bass. I tried comparing it to the internal DAC in the Opera, and the DAC60 is better in my opinion. It’s more dynamic and just as detailed. Way better than the Zhaolu D2 I had before.

Crossfeed was not used.
The zero ohm output of the Opera was used.


Construction
A1:
See my first A1 review. Here I also compare it to my Mapletree Ear++ tube amp.
Opera: Much has been said already, so do a search.
I only want to say that it looks way better in real life, than in pictures. Also, I would have wanted the switch for USB/Internal DAC to be located on the front. Oh, and the bloody clicking of the relays can be annoying sometimes.


Comparison using the DT770-32 Manufacture
The highs: Quite evenly matched. I can’t hear much difference between the two amps. However, the A1 seems to be a little brighter.

The midrange: Again, not many differences, but here the A1 seems a to have a little more resolution and possible a wider soundstage. There’s some more body to Mark Knopfler’s voice. Actually a little more texture too. On recordings with huge soundscapes, there’s more space between the sounds with the A1.

The bass: Ok, here are the differences. The A1 got some serious punch with enormous control. It’s just so fast and dynamic. Drums sound bloody realistic. The Opera is also top notch, but it’s slightly reserved in comparison to the A1. It’s also easier to pick out bass-lines that usually get a little drowned in the mix. Rage Against the Machine is hysterical fun with the A1 and DT770-32. :-)

Conclusion using the DT770-32 Manufacture: Quite interesting to hear that this fairly easy-to-drive DT770-32 also can pick out differences between these two superb amplifiers. However…with this headphone and on some recordings (often of lower standard), the bass can actually come close to be overpowering. But this will depend on the source. The DAC60 is bass-heavy, and when switching to the gentler inboard Opera-DAC, overpowering bass is less likely.
Let’s try another headphone.

Comparison using the DT770-250 Pro+Light Edition 2005 (Limited Edition)
The highs: About the same as the DT770-32. The A1 is a little brighter, but not fatiguing in any way. I think there’s a little additional air with the A1 too.

The midrange: This DT770 got a brighter and more detailed midrange than most DT770s, which makes it ideal to pick out differences on equipment.
Again, the A1 adds more body to voices, and I think there might be a hint of more details. The A1 seems to have slightly better control over the soundstage when things get really busy in the midrange.

The bass: This DT770 haven’t got the huge, deep bass of the regular DT770s, but it’s faster and tighter.
Even with this fairly bass-light phone, there’s still a feeling that the A1’s got something in the bass-regions that the Opera hasn’t. It’s especially noticeable when there’s a lot going on. There’s more energy, and yet easier to pick out a single bass-line.

Conclusion using the DT770-250 Pro+Light Edition: This is a harder to drive headphone, but the differences are very similar as those heard using the DT770-32. It was easier to hear that voices got more resolution and texture on the A1.
It was interesting to hear that the A1 made this already fast bass even faster. There’s truly something special going on here.


I tried the other headphones too, but I couldn’t find any other interesting differences, so I’ll just rather sum it up in the final conclusion.


Final conclusion
First of all; these are two extremely good solid state headphone amplifiers. Based on sound-performance alone, I wouldn’t hesitate recommending both to anybody.
The Opera is superbly smooth and balanced. I can’t think of any music it wouldn’t do full justice to. It’s just that the A1 does a few things even better (or differently, if you will).
Honestly, I couldn’t hear any significant differences in the highest frequencies. The A1 might have a tad more air and brightness, but it’s too close to even bother.

In the midrange there’s less body and width on the Opera. Male voices sound more robust and got more texture on the A1. It’s also easier to pick out details when the music gets really busy and crowded. But beware, these are fairly small differences. Not being able to directly compare the amps, I doubt many will notice them.

However, in the bass-region, most people will easily notice the differences. The A1 is dynamic monster. I haven’t heard speed, attack, control and dynamics like this in any amplifier (I haven’t tried THAT many amps, though). It finds more rhythm and groovyness that you ever thought was possible in your favorite tracks. Not only in Rage Against The Machine’s hard drums, but also in Ani DiFranco very percussive guitar-picking and when Steve Vai gets really complex.

The A1 still won’t make your DT880 sound like a DT770, but it will make it a little more entertaining and dynamic, if you like those sort of things. Even the W1000 got some more down low grooves.
There’s something really special with the A1 dynamics.

But if you got a very bass-competent source and headphone, the A1 might actually be a little too much. I think this will occur very rarely, and you must be bass-sensitive. Also the A1 is without mercy regarding badly recorded music and low bitrate MP3s.

The biggest problem with the Beyerdynamic A1, is still the price. It still feels too high, even if it is an extremely good amplifier. The slightly boring looks aren’t helping either, I guess. There are other amps on the market with better reputations and might be considered sexier.
However, having heard the A1 with a better source than my Zhaolu D2, it’s apparent that it scales very well with better equipment, so the price might not be that bad after all.
It's a tricky one...

I’m probably not going to sell my Opera for an A1 any time soon. The Opera is an excellent all-rounder with fantastic sound and great features at a very good price. A package that’s very hard to beat.

But man….those magical A1 dynamics….


[ 本帖最后由 Pan 于 2009-2-18 12:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-2-18 23:21:17 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 crow01828 于 2009-2-18 22:32 发表
看来DAC部分很弱。


Corda Opera有两个版本,一个纯耳放版,一个带DAC解码版;我对带DAC版不感兴趣,我试的一台是纯耳放版。
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