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我想我需要再次表明,虽然某些朋友对hd800只有赞没有拍,但是我从来不这么认为。

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/sennheiser-hd-800-rudistor-rpx-33-ev08-audition-435680/

很同意这篇的看法。HD800的声音有怪异之处。并且这不像是靠前端可以改变的。是设计思路本身使然。

建议想购入的朋友先考虑清楚。

What’s the sound like?

All my impressions are very much comparative to the HD-600 on thesame amp, but as these are well known in the community this should behelpful.

First impression is that they disappear from your head in the sensethat it does not feel like you are listening to headphones norspeakers. It is kind of an abstract space, the music doesn’t seem tohappen ‘inside your head’ (as with the 600’s) nor outside of it but …in an abstract place, perhaps something like a top studio.

At the top end they sounded very transparent, extremely detailed andextended. By extended I mean they had much more ‘breath’ especiallywith strings. By comparison the HD-600 feel like they run out of breath.

Bass-wise the feeling of physical impact is small, but, unlike theHD-600, I didn’t feel the need for more bass, bass sounded right. Forsomeone who is likes ‘solid bass’ I was quite surprised I didn’t missgreater “physical” impact.

… but what’s the music like?

As I said, my main conclusion is that their character is the same asthat of the HD-600. There is more air, transparency and punch, and theyare much, much faster too. But it’s the same character. In fact, inthis respect I would only say they are a bit colder or ‘distant’ thanthe HD-600 which seem more warmer and ‘closer’ to you. Perhaps it isbecause they are simply much more neutral and truthful.

I have thought for long that, no matter the recording or gearassociated, the HD-600 is incapable of conveying any feeling ofhappiness, joy, lightness, airiness, euphory… joy de vivre. For me, theHD-800 also suffer the same. Livelier for sure but they still feelcorrect rather than fun or vividly colourful (not coloured!).

Don’t get me wrong, everything they do has greatness written large onit, but not for once did I feel either involved (as I would expect withclassical) or having fun (with jazz/guitar).

I have a pair of Yamaha studio monitors (also plugged to the Rudistor)and they sound studio-like, a work tool – and they are! The HD-800 wasthe same, they sounded like a studio tool… a technical tour-de-force.
Moreover, plugging those Yamaha monitors to the Rudistor has definitelyand clearly taken the edge off those ‘studio-sounding’ Yamaha monitorsand made them more organic. This showed me beyond all doubt how muchcharacter this amp has and much of it comes through yourspeakers/headphones.

Even by comparison to a tube amp I previously had, the Raptor, theRudistor is very organic, involving, emotive and emotional (whilesounding correct). So if the HD-800 can be involving with any solidstate amplifier, it should be so with the Rudistor or with no other.

It wasn’t.
Even with the organic-sounding Rudistor they did not add any emotion to the music.

(this is ‘in my humble opinion’… but I’ll concede that a veryeuphonic tube amp, which the Raptor is not for sure, might change this…)
Yes, the unit was not burned in but even so…

Don’t get me wrong, it’s a top headphone that will make many manypeople happy… just not me, and a good few other music lovers. Foreveryone else I would go as far as saying you can’t go wrong with it.

In the end of the day…

If I had a pair of HD-800, I would always marvel at what they are ableto do, the deftness with which they handle everything, the feeling ofcorrectness shot through everything they do.
But they did not pull me into the music. Maybe it's just me, maybe not.

Of course, they will perfectly portray whatever is on the CD and youwill forever admire the perfection with which they do it. You will sitamazed, contemplating what Sennheiser has achieved and this willentertain you. If you crave for nothing more, then that’s the end ofthe story.
But if you know what it’s like when a voice is lit from within withhuman warmth, or when the emotion of a performer comes through hisinstrument or when the swing and rhythm of a jazz band makes your foottap, then I think you might not find it here. And then you realize theydo not make you happy at all, they’re just a technical tour-de-force… atool, or a toy.
(depending on wether you are a recording engineer or an audiophile, respectively)

It’s like the perfect woman for whom you feel nothing at all, even if you can appreciate how perfect she might be.

Or perhaps a very good work colleague but neither a fun friend you wantto hang out with nor an close friend you’ll tell your intimate problemsto.

Just remembered what the box said: “crafted for perfection”.

Indeed.

“Does exactly what it says on the tin”

[ 本帖最后由 kanex 于 2009-7-21 23:33 编辑 ]
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是说声音没感情吧?
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发表于 2009-7-21 23:32:46 | 显示全部楼层
风格是风格,素质是素质啊,总会有公论的,放心吧。
不过HD800这风格的确可能在器材之“PK”上会有点吃亏。

[ 本帖最后由 mifeng 于 2009-7-21 23:35 编辑 ]
退烧咯。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-7-21 23:36:05 | 显示全部楼层
在此重复说过的话:HD800就像DAC1。指标会很好,但声音有什么问题,各位自己清楚。

之前kell说过一句话:系统应该要玩出风格,而不是用不同风格的器材来中和。

这个观点,令人赞同。考虑是不是需要把解码真的换成DAC1,再加上SPL,做一个“有意思”的系统。

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是调整好的dac1,还是没调整好的dac1?
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原帖由 RickyLung 于 2009-7-22 00:03 发表
越难玩越有兴趣


甚麽时候教我玩007?

我还未听过007A耳罩下的007...
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原帖由 askforwhy 于 2009-7-22 00:07 发表
自己耳听为实,讲再多都是虚的


因此已经不讲了,呵呵!
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原帖由 creamy_wan 于 2009-7-22 00:07 发表


甚麽时候教我玩007?

我还未听过007A耳罩下的007...


今个星期来吧

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