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发表于 2005-2-11 19:23:31 | 显示全部楼层
有人甘愿被骗哦,呵呵。
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发表于 2005-2-11 20:48:46 | 显示全部楼层
我非常非常非常非常想知道LUXMAN P1的表现如何!!!!!有没有人知道???
音箱:ELAC FS609CE;ELAC FS215 4PI II;DALI IKON 6,SCANDYNA MINI POD.....
CD机:ORPHEUS LABS ABSOLUTE CD;STUDER D731;LUXMAN D-N150 DENON DCD2000AE
唱机:BERGMANN MEGNA,MICRO SEIKI BL91
唱头:BENZ MICRO RUBY OPENAIR;ORTOFON CADENZA BLACK
唱放:PHASEMATION EA300,LUXMAN E250
功放:RESTEK EXPONENT西装前后;RESTEK EXTRACT西装前后 DENON PMA 2000AE
耳放:铁三角HA2002
耳机:铁三角AWKT
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下面是引用kanila于2005-02-11 20:48发表的:
我非常非常非常非常想知道LUXMAN P1的表现如何!!!!!有没有人知道???
俺目前知道唯一没被骂的就是LUXMAN P1了.........
力争做出最不好的耳放...
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发表于 2005-2-11 21:01:03 | 显示全部楼层
  楼主的评价肯定是有失偏颇的!

在“Head-Fi”上,凡是听过QUALIA 010的人一致的评价是:QUALIA 010是目前动圈耳机中速度最快、细节最丰富(细节上要超过“大奥”)、音场最真实(最接近音乐厅)的动圈耳机!

MDR-R10与QUALIA 010相比,只能打成平手!在速度、细节、音场上,R10完败给:QUALIA 010!

在:音乐的韵味、低音方面,R10又强于QUALIA 010(但“QUALIA 010”的低音却下潜的非常深,而且极其准确)

所以综合比较,二者基本是平手。

你的“骗钱”一说,只能说明你不喜欢:QUALIA 010的风格。在“Head-Fi”上,只要是听过:QUALIA 010的都认为其是表现大编制交响乐最完美的动圈!尤其是其音场,可以让听者完全体味音乐厅的味道。

另外顺便纠正楼主的一个错误。R10的:生物纤维振膜并不是最薄的动圈振膜!

QUALIA 010的纳米技术的:composite HD振动单元才是目前最薄的动圈震膜。因为它的厚度只有:5微米!
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下面是引用zke于2005-02-11 20:53发表的:

俺目前知道唯一没被骂的就是LUXMAN P1了.........
我想是因为国内很难找到的原因罢,什么东西都有两面性的,我也看过大奥被人骂过啊!!听说这东西很贵.....多少钱???
音箱:ELAC FS609CE;ELAC FS215 4PI II;DALI IKON 6,SCANDYNA MINI POD.....
CD机:ORPHEUS LABS ABSOLUTE CD;STUDER D731;LUXMAN D-N150 DENON DCD2000AE
唱机:BERGMANN MEGNA,MICRO SEIKI BL91
唱头:BENZ MICRO RUBY OPENAIR;ORTOFON CADENZA BLACK
唱放:PHASEMATION EA300,LUXMAN E250
功放:RESTEK EXPONENT西装前后;RESTEK EXTRACT西装前后 DENON PMA 2000AE
耳放:铁三角HA2002
耳机:铁三角AWKT
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发表于 2005-2-11 21:37:57 | 显示全部楼层
下面是引用zjxs于2005-02-11 21:01发表的:
  楼主的评价肯定是有失偏颇的!

在“Head-Fi”上,凡是听过QUALIA 010的人一致的评价是:QUALIA 010是目前动圈耳机中速度最快、细节最丰富(细节上要超过“大奥”)、音场最真实(最接近音乐厅)的动圈耳机!

MDR-R10与QUALIA 010相比,只能打成平手!在速度、细节、音场上,R10完败给:QUALIA 010!
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这些也都是听别人说而已,呵呵,自己听过才知道。楼主听过最有发言权啦。当然不能听一家之言,好不好还要自己听过后才知道。
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发表于 2005-2-11 22:26:50 | 显示全部楼层
010搭配上比R10更加麻煩,但搭配的好相當平衡全面,訊源不應該搭配sony的cdp,個人比較喜歡010,聽習慣010之後,不會想去聽R10的,雖然我兩支都有
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下面是引用g3k于2005-02-11 19:09发表的:
感觉SONY公司在拿QUALIA 010耳机骗钱。
呵呵,自己去看看head-fi上網友的評論吧,難道他們都是傻子?
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发表于 2005-2-12 00:07:56 | 显示全部楼层
俺理解大家都说好的东西一定是好的,但是对自己不一定是好的。

010不好就没人买啦,sony肯定不能说它比R10差,不然自己打自己嘴巴。买家肯定不能说它比R10差,或者说它是骗钱的玩意,不然自己就是傻子啦。俺买的东西肯定不能说不好,不然俺就傻啦。哈哈。
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下面是引用leolss于2005-02-12 00:07发表的:
俺理解大家都说好的东西一定是好的,但是对自己不一定是好的。

010不好就没人买啦,sony肯定不能说它比R10差,不然自己打自己嘴巴。买家肯定不能说它比R10差,或者说它是骗钱的玩意,不然自己就是傻子啦。俺买的东西肯定不能说不好,不然俺就傻啦。哈哈。

您大概没弄清楚“QUALIA”系列的销售方式,这个系列的产品是买家去现场的专卖店经过详细的亲身体验后,满意才购买的!

“Head-Fi”上有个意大利人飞到日本去感受了“QUALIA 010”的魅力后,觉得无法抵挡,所以才心甘情愿掏钱将其买下。后来自己专门为:QUALIA 010设计了部耳放!按他的说法,QUALIA 010有顶级动圈耳机凌厉的动态的同时,拥有超越顶级静电耳机的细节和速度。

现在他的搭配是:Linn CD12 + 自制的010耳放 + QUALIA 010!

包括楼上的“h88147”兄,也应该是在台湾的:QUALIA订制店中经过反复聆听、比对后,才决定购买:QUALIA 010的(因为此前他已经拥有:MDR-R10了)

这是“Head-fi”上一个几乎听遍了所有的顶级耳机的家伙,给出的他认为的耳机音质的排名:
http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/s ... mp;page=3&pp=20
Qualia>HE90>K1000>R10>HE60>SR-007>HP-1000&gtS-1>SR-404>L3000>HD650>RS-1>W2002>DT880

其评价如下:

http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/s ... mp;page=5&pp=20
I will answer the recent questions posed by others in the thread at a later time, but for now I'd like to present my personal tiered system (as inspired by Hirsch) - remember this is purely my own opinion and IMHO:

Tier 1:
Sennheiser HE 90: Simply the best headphone I’ve ever heard – it’s so musical and cohesive that it just disappears.

Sony MDR-R10: An alluring sound, especially when driven by tubes; its midrange is something truly special and, as of yet, unmatched.

Sony Qualia 010: This headphone is the closest I’ve heard to a hybrid of dynamic and electrostatic sound qualities; it features the impact and dynamics of transducers and the speed and airiness of electrostatics; the details this headphone retrieves is truly remarkable, and I daresay it’s the most detailed and transparent headphone I’ve ever heard (it is too detailed for my tastes, and isn’t as musical as the HE 90, IMO).

Stax SR-007: It serves as the perfect counterpoint to the HE 90, with its darker tonality and weightier sound; it has a very special charm and sounds better than any other headphone with certain recordings; however compared to the HE 90 and Qualia 010, some minute details and articulation (especially in the bass) is lost.

Tier 2:
Sennheiser HD 650: It has a very musical, cohesive sound that is both detailed and enjoyable; it truly does grow with one’s equipment, and when driven in balanced mode it has such a fantastic soundstage and bass impact that it is beyond reproach in this regard.

AKG K 1000: A soundstage that no other headphone can achieve, as well as great resolution and detail that approaches (and surpasses in certain regards) the HP-1000 and HD 650.

Sennheiser HE 60: This is one of the fastest cans around – it illustrates impossibly-fast transients much like its bigger brother, the Orpheus, but it lacks its older sibling’s refinement and musical shimmer.

Stax SR-404: A true bargain among ‘stats; it comes very close to achieving the Omega II’s resolution, but it cannot quite reproduce bass with any convincing authority and cannot capture the OII's 3D presentation.

Audio-Technica ATH-L3000: It features a very balanced sound that is pleasing throughout the spectrum, but it cannot quite reach the levels of musicality achieved by the MDR-R10 and HE 90.

Grado HP-1000: This ‘phone can capture every nuance and subtly in a performance while not leaving any imprint on the piece; however, this characteristic lends the headphone a dry, lifeless quality that is less than ideal, IMO (though it’s still a firm resident of Tier 2).

Grado PS-1 Pro: It captures most of the detail and resolution of the HP-1000 while retaining a livelier, more enjoyable sound, much like the RS-1; it is a reasonable synthesis of the two Grado greats.

Tier 3:
Beyerdynamic DT 880: These cans sound like the love-child of the HD 600 and K 501, with the former’s bass extension and the latter’s treble detail and wide soundstage; however, it also exhibits a very dry midrange that detracts from the positive sonic characteristics.

Sennheiser HD 600: A very solid headphone that is quite balanced and musical for the most part; some recordings may sound somewhat obscured and distant, but better associated equipment will remedy for the most part (though not completely).

Audio-Technica ATH-W2002: This headphone has a great knack for capturing the essence of a performance, and its forward midrange and great detail are very satisfying; however, its weak bass extension and slowness of attack hurts its performance.

Grado RS-1: A detailed, yet enjoyable headphone that places the listener with the band and refuses to back down; the dynamics and impact are amazing but it grows fatiguing with time.

Alessandro MS-Pro: Very similar to the RS-1, but certain emphasis in the mid-bass region has been removed, and although it has helped the ‘phone sound more neutral, it has also removed a certain “fun factor” that makes the RS-1 special.

Sony MDR-CD3000: The headphone is very detailed and impact-ful; it has a very wide, if artificial-sounding soundstage and a very trebly sound that is highlighted by its poor bass extension.

AKG K 501: This headphone has a very wide soundstage and a very sweet midrange that is unmatched by any other ‘phone in this tier; its lacking bass response and dominating treble lends it an un-balanced sound, IMO.
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发表于 2005-2-12 00:20:37 | 显示全部楼层
那也是他们的“故事”,最终还是取决于自己的喜好。
SONY SRS-Z1
SONY EXQ1
ONKYO SE-90
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我还想  面包 去那里了阿  

人就出现了
正是 好蘿 好莉
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下面是引用zjxs于2005-02-12 00:16发表的:
  

您大概没弄清楚“QUALIA”系列的销售方式,这个系列的产品是买家去现场的专卖店经过详细的亲身体验后,满意才购买的!

“Head-Fi”上有个意大利人飞到日本去感受了“QUALIA 010”的魅力后,觉得无法抵挡,所以才心甘情愿掏钱将其买下。后来自己专门为:QUALIA 010设计了部耳放!按他的说法,QUALIA 010有顶级动圈耳机凌厉的动态的同时,拥有超越顶级静电耳机的细节和速度。
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没有那么神啦,NIK应该是没听过010就买了,二房也是RUDI做的量产型号RP010,台湾应该也没有QUALIA店,虽然结果都不错,偶也觉得QUALIA是最好的耳机,过于神话就不必要了么,呵呵。
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