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ljd2005

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  终于听到AKG的新便携小耳机K24P的样品。
耳机比PX100大一圈，很好推，在CD6000上，同样的音量，比PX100声音还大。
听蔡琴，小提琴魔鬼的颤音等，简单对比一下同定位、价格区间差部多的PX100，PX200。

24P一改AKG的原来低频弱的形象，低频让人很吃惊，量感很足，力道也够扎实。

比PX100、PX200的低频量和下潜好多了，有KSC-35的低频量感，但力度、层次、质感好很多，总体解析力高多了。动态很足，给人有足够的震撼力。
和35那种没有上半身的比，总体平衡好多了，人声、高频都很清晰。
声场具有AKG一贯的优点，比较开阔，层次分明。
人声总体厚暖，但女声高音部分有点偏亮，有刺耳的感觉。没有501的那种细致、优雅。

由于只是初步听了一下，感觉24P 26P 绝对值得期待，在声音的总体平衡、解析力、动态、声场层次各方面，比PX100、PX200、KSC系列，要高出不止一个层次，同时阻抗、灵敏度、便携性也属于好适应的，价格是AKG一贯的高性价比。可以说会成为中低价位、小耳机的新王者。
有了24P 26P，大家可能要重新审视一下PX、KSC之类的是否图有虚名或暴利糊弄人，真可以丢垃圾桶了。

sffcd

比PX100、PX200的低频量和下潜好多了，有KSC-35的低频量感，但力度、层次、质感好很多，总体解析力高多了。动态很足，给人有足够的震撼力。
和35那种没有上半身的比，总体平衡好多了，人声、高频都很清晰。
声场具有AKG一贯的优点，比较开阔，层次分明。
人声总体厚暖，但女声高音部分有点偏亮，有刺耳的感觉。没有501的那种细致、优雅。


这是24P? [s:28]

futuro

看到一篇k26p和PX200的 review不错。大家看看：
after ~60-80h of burn-in i want to go in depth with the akg k26p and compare them with the sennheiser px200


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ergonomics
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first thing to be stressed is the extreme efficiency of the k26p. plugged in my ppa (gain: 10,5) i hear hiss even with volume 0, plugged in the go vibe (gain 6) nearly the same. one could easily overpower these cans with the headphone-out of his cdp or pcdp. so i decided to do all comparisons without an amp through the hp-out of my (suboptimal) iriver imp350. and indeed they sounded better unamped than out of the go vibe...

comfort: i told you first that i felt the k26p to be more comfortable than the px200. be aware, that i have to stretch some parts of my auricle to get a proper seal with the px200 - and the phones have to stay right there for optimal position, causing some discomfort after a few minutes. i do not have to do that with the k26p. on the other hand akg's clamping pressure is higher, so they are pressing heavier on your head and ears. but with the k26p there are more possible points of optimal position on the ear so that you can rearrange them whenever you want.


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sound
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1. electronica:
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(recordings: sven väth - contact, einstürzende neubauten - ende neu (remixes), fatboy slim - halfway between the gutter and the stars)

k26p:
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oh... hell... again: those basses are unbelievable present given such little drivers, you'd realize that first too. it's really fun to listen to electronic dance music (sven väth). believe it or not: some mids came in during break-in. no real soundstage: the acoustic image stays flat.
they reach their limits with more complex, more varied instrumented recordings (like neubauten with their dominating percussion- and basslines). that's the end of fun - the old problem reappears: bass eats mids and degrades further a poor resolution. and although the bass is heavy and deep it remains clumsy / un-dynamic.
voices (macy gray on fatboy's love life, blixa bargeld with neubauten) sound hollow, somewhat recessed, lack some presence.

px200:
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there are more details in the mids and highs, bass is better resolved, not that deep but far from being muddy at all. i had not that much fun with dance-music, but the px200 are superior in resolution, separation of tones and dynamics. plus there's a sort of soundstage, more spatial depth in sound. there's no big difference in the higher highs between px200 and k26p: both offer not much of them, the k26p maybe a little more.
voices are present just in front of you, where they belong. their timbre is more natural.


2. classics:
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(recordings: rodrigo - concerto para una fiesta / p. romero, asmf n. marriner, schubert - octet d803 / berliner solisten, shostakovich - violin concerto no.1 / erxleben, bso flor)

k26p:
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one of my favourite personal reference-recordings is rodrigo's concerto para una fiesta with its lively and abrupt change of subtle acoustic guitar and complex orchestral passages. k26p performs absolutely poor: pepe romero's guitar jumps away whenever the orchestra comes in. moreover nearly all overtones are swallowed. the guitar sounds compressed and thin, the orchestra remains unresolved. bass dominates the mids.

chamber music (schubert): oh no... what a bad resolution starting in the bass reaching up to higher mids. separate instruments flow in each other... this is an inexcusable weakness! timbre of instruments is slightly off. again no soundstage..

the solo violin in shostakovich's concerto has a little brighter, more familiar timbre, but sometimes sounds like someone tries to imitate it on a synthesizer. no more words on poor resolution, lacking details etc. see above. again the solo-instrument partly vanishes when some deeper instruments begin their play.


px200:
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to produce a more intimate image of acoustic guitar the px200 would need some more of higher highs. but the little senn does a much better job here than its akg-copy. guitar stays present in the front even while the orchestra's playing. instruments are better separated. bass stays clean.

with chamber music there's again a nearly natural timbre, this time with strings and flutes. the double basses are well resolved, growl fully articulated and musical. some extension in the highs is the thing i miss most.

shostakovich's violin concerto was one of my references while i did my audition in a local shop with the koss portapro, the px100 and the px200. it ended with buying the px200 (for too much money as i realized later), because it was simply the best performer out of the three with that particular music, that i love. and so now: separation, dynamics, detail, timbre (except the solo-violin.. a little dark), small but existant soundstage... all is there. the px200 is far superior with classical music, period.


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conclusion
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i have to thank akg for designing the k26p (they are built in china), because they gave me the chance to esteem some of the benefits of the px200 that i was just about to forget.
ok - the k26p are cheaper (~

futuro

k26p的低音可能和pp比较象。
综合实力还是px200强！特别是古典！
但是欧洲的价格k26p便宜很多：40 欧元， px200:６０欧元。

futuro

下面是引用quaker45于2005-03-14 05:45发表的:
那里边提到的break-in是什麽意思

ｂｒｅａｋ　ｉｎ？在哪里？没找到。

vincent0

我买了一个k26p 现在天天出门都听他，就是觉得低音太厚了。 可能还没开的原因。再有就是是封闭式的，我在家里听dt990。所以感觉上不来。

mengxi_2004

下面是引用vincent0于2005-03-17 13:27发表的:
我买了一个k26p 现在天天出门都听他，就是觉得低音太厚了。 可能还没开的原因。再有就是是封闭式的，我在家里听dt990。所以感觉上不来。

请问你在那里买的啊？多少钱？

vdboy623

同上，那么有买？

vincent0

我在巴黎买的。好像是43欧元。差不多，我忘了价钱了。好像也可以邮购，如果需要，我帮你问一问。

hifi39度

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故乡的云

拜托那位大虾把二楼这篇英文大概翻译一下吧~！或者有听过AKG 26p和  PX200的兄弟说说听感那个解析力更好点~？

vincent0

我觉得px200的解析力要好些，26p的低音太混了。个人见解，我是个初鸟。也可能是26太新了。还需要些时间。不过我觉得26p要比200耐看些。

lee

26p再混有hd437混吗，哈哈

竹筷子

  不觉得k24p比px200好多少，顶多在一个级别上。如果px200没那么闷，我觉得它还会超过k24p。