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[解码器] [新玩具入手] EXIMUS DP-1 (DAC+PRE) (9.16 顶楼更新Eximus 推HD800及T1的听感)

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 楼主| 发表于 2012-8-23 22:24:52 | 显示全部楼层
CEntrance | Eximus*: The $795 DACmini from the authors of the AdaptiWave™ firmware and JitterGuard™ circuitry licensed to Bel Canto, Benchmark, Empirical and Lavry is a sober reminder of diminishing returns. It's a very high-value proposition which additionally demolishes the async supremacy racism so prevalent in current USB audio discussions. What the thrice-high investment of the DP1 buys is more of three things - ambient recovery, lateral expansion and overall scale. By recovering less venue action, the CEntrance sounded starker. With it Dulce Pontes on "Verde pino verde mastro" from her Momentos twofer for example had a more disassociated quality. The DP1 showed clearly more reverberant interaction around the voice. This produced a richer more interconnected sound embedded in vibrant space that wasn't a cutout voice overlaid against a black vacuum as the DACmini did. The latter was squeaky clean but by comparison stripped away something ephemeral but interesting

Or as a friend put it, "the CEntrance is very matter of fact." Indeed. And it really should be about the facts and nothing but. With upscale hifi the facts simply often turn out to have multiple layers or 'hidden meanings' which give them greater context and completeness. Here I'm not talking about the silly but mythical artists' intention as though anyone could really know what that was. I'm talking about what occurs acoustically around and between the performers in the recorded space. More of that enriches the timbres. It also makes the presentation bigger and denser. Take these sentences. Mary walks her dog. Mary walks her nervous dog. Mary walks her nervous dog under an ominous sky. The first sentence has all the facts relevant for a police statement. The last paints a more complete moody picture for a psychologist looking for meaning. Music and mood are inextricably intertwined. The pure music facts are just tones in proper amplitude and time. The mood facts need more subliminal tertiary data. That in essence was the difference between Eximus and CEntrance.


- 万元内的三小强级别DAC被秒杀!差别主要体现在一下三点:包围感,两侧延伸和整体的规模(这个地方翻得不太好,请诸位指正)

[ 本帖最后由 kevinsh 于 2012-8-23 22:28 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-8-23 22:30:20 | 显示全部楼层
Eximus | Metrum + U3:
The Metrum is a quad-paralleled R/2R DAC run NOS style but capable of processing up to 24-bit/176.4kHz signal. Setting PureMusic 1.81d5r4 to 176.4kHz in NOS mode upshifts unfiltered anti-aliasing garbage out of the passband. If you're sensitive to the softening effects of zero sampling/filtering, voilà. At $1.500 with the obligatory U3 to do USB—the Stello could be replaced by a KingRex, Audiophilleo or similar for perhaps even better results—this Dutch converter had become my go-to choice from personal inventory. In the interest of minimized variables again I set source oversampling for both machines, then the Eximus to zero upsampling on its end.

The Metrum had the same shimmer and expansiveness as the Eximus, the same non-etched clarity and profound color intensity yet not quite its gutsiness, image pop, drive and projection power. This caused me conjecture about a perhaps butcher power supply for Simon Lee's machine because those exact qualities often accompany an upgraded PSU. The actual reason could be different but the tie-in does suggest the proper results. Given length constraints of this review and the need to keep multiple comparisons brief, I'd call the U3/Metrum combo Eximus lite - a very similar presentation but as such not quite as potent.

Where the Invicta and DP1 were on the level but distinguished by flavor, this pairing shared the flavor but occupied two different hierarchical steps - large/medium or original/lite. Considering moolaha (essentially half the cost), the Metrum is a true insider's tip. Over it the Eximus expands on features and sound. That has the fiscal repercussions in line.

- 和胆解码Metrum+Stello U3来比较(这样在数字输入上差异应该就比较小了吧),两者在味道上有异曲同工之妙(应该说Eximus有模拟味或胆味喽?)但是两者的差别的在hierarchical steps - large/medium or original/lite. (这个怎么翻译比较好?)

[ 本帖最后由 kevinsh 于 2012-8-23 22:38 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-8-28 12:13:59 | 显示全部楼层
顶楼更新了在耳机系统上的听感。
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发表于 2012-8-28 14:23:08 | 显示全部楼层
D50作转盘,素质只怕还一般般吧?
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发表于 2012-8-28 14:35:05 | 显示全部楼层
楼主毒文啊
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发表于 2012-8-28 19:58:15 | 显示全部楼层
lz放毒真是狠 对我来说主要的障碍是棒子货这个帽子。。。
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-8-28 20:16:25 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 SHOWWHITE 于 2012-8-28 19:58 发表
lz放毒真是狠 对我来说主要的障碍是棒子货这个帽子。。。


设计师不是棒子唉。是在老美的欧洲人吧。
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原帖由 doom4 于 2012-8-28 14:23 发表
D50作转盘,素质只怕还一般般吧?


当年试下来 差不多是5K~8K档次全新Cd当转盘的水平
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-8-29 14:44:37 | 显示全部楼层
8.29 再次更新

在大系统(功放+音箱)及古典的测试;
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发表于 2012-8-29 15:24:13 | 显示全部楼层
何不配个S-1,一套西装。
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-8-29 15:44:47 | 显示全部楼层
S1推不动我的音箱唉。
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-9-10 17:44:51 | 显示全部楼层
停工了一段时间,继续把6moon的测评更新下去
Eximus | Zodiac Gold:

Igor Levin's converter is even more full-featured than the DP1 to add socketry including digital outputs plus remote control. It, the Invicta and the Eximus are the three big dogs of this pack. With the Gold I heard even more space envelopment behind the performers. This produced the most lit-up dimensionality and what in audio lingo goes for holography though it's not. Simultaneously the overall stance or attitude was more relaxed, the participatory vibe more laid back. The Eximus was the grippier and more forward projecting performer. This doesn't refer to subjective stage distance or placement. It's about the 'they're here' versus 'I'm there' feeling. The DP1 had greater oomph and incarnation factor.

-Zodiac Gold有数字输出,而Eximus没有。(不能单独当界面使了,有点浪费了Xmos唉),
- Zodiac Gold的空间感更好,听感更宽松。
- Eximus感觉更紧,歌手更靠前。同时感觉DP1的解像更为具象。



All this translated intact to headfi where the Eximus added superior drive/gain and gumption whilst the Gold retaliated with a near overabundance of spatial detail or airiness. In terms of headphones I perceived a slight hierarchy which, top down, read DP1, Invicta, Gold. From these comparisons the Eximus adds up to top resolution that's a bit less overt or in slightly softer contrast than the Invicta; greater density and substance than the Gold; equivalent meatiness to the Burson but clearly higher magnification power; nearly subliminal sweetness rather than warmth; and tone-color intensity and crystallization similar to the Metrum but with greater force. That's the big picture

-就耳机headfi来说, Zodiac Gold拥有更多的三维细节和更好的空气感,但是感觉似乎有点过头了。
- 光就耳机来说,测评者的偏好是按喜好顺序排列是DP1>Invicta>Zodiac Gold. 和其他两个追随者相比,Eximus比Invicta相比有更好的解析,同时没有Invicta那么刺激;和Zodiac Gold相比,拥有更好的密度和质感。
- 基本测评者认为Eximus作为Headfi领域和其他几个竞争者相比是最强的;
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-9-17 15:43:15 | 显示全部楼层
9.16 顶楼更新Eximus 推HD800及T1的听感
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发表于 2012-9-17 15:56:15 | 显示全部楼层
如此好贴岂能无图啊,期待高清大图
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这个比较合胃口
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