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[发烧理念] E4C和ue5 pro fi到底买那个啊,各位兄弟来发表下意见啊!

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感谢嘉明兄!!开眼了~~
耳塞头可以换为COMPLY软海棉弹性塞吗??
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有没有真实佩带的效果图照呀??
是否和E3C一样,从耳后绕线呢??
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下面是引用cigarcoffee于2005-10-21 20:37发表的:
感谢嘉明兄!!开眼了~~
耳塞头可以换为COMPLY软海棉弹性塞吗??
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人生就如一场映画,什么时候出场,什么时候离去,命运似乎早已经有安排。我不知道我是否是一个合格的演员,但我只希望,我的女主角能够陪伴着我,完成这套映画中属于我们的戏份。

我的个人空间:http://www.headphoneclub.com/index.php?uid/20932
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由于导管比E5C的要粗,所以用不了COMPLY的.
人生就如一场映画,什么时候出场,什么时候离去,命运似乎早已经有安排。我不知道我是否是一个合格的演员,但我只希望,我的女主角能够陪伴着我,完成这套映画中属于我们的戏份。

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下面是引用刘嘉明于2005-10-21 21:42发表的:
由于导管比E5C的要粗,所以用不了COMPLY的.
谢谢!好及时好认真~~收到~~
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http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,120931,00.asp

Well-Priced In-Ear Stereophile Headphones

Ultimate Ears starts line of consumer in-ear-canal headphones.

Dan Frakes, Playlist
Friday, May 20, 2005

Ultimate Ears has long been known in audio and music industry circles for its custom personal monitors--in effect, in-ear-canal headphones (or canalphones) with custom earmolds, made to fit each user's ears perfectly. However, at prices ranging from $550 (the UE-5c) to $900 (the UE-10c), the market for these products has been limited to mainly professional musicians and serious audio geeks.

Over the past five years, though, as more and more people have discovered the benefits of good canalphones--more-impressive sound quality and better noise isolation than what can be achieved by even the best noise-canceling headphones--the market for "off-the-shelf" models that don't require a trip to an audiologist has grown significantly.

In fact, if you look at the headphones section of Playlist's Product Guide, you'll find that Playlist has given very high ratings to a number of off-the-shelf canalphones, including the Etymotic ER-4P ($200-$270 street) and ER-6i ($120-$150 street) and the Shure E5c ($350-$500 street) and E3c ($120-$180 street).

Although pricey by Best Buy standards, all of these models are less expensive than custom-made canalphones while still providing stellar sound quality compared with the kind of headphones most people use. And the appeal of these types of headphones is growing--at January's Consumer Electronics Show, representatives from Etymotic Research, one of the biggest players in the field, told Playlist that whereas three years ago the company's hearing aid products comprised the bulk of retail sales, last year, consumer earphones accounted for more than 45 percent of those sales.

So it came as no surprise when Ultimate Ears announced it would be entering this growing market. The company recently disclosed the details of its new super.fi series of "consumer" canalphones, with prices ranging from $149 to $249.

The Models
Like offerings from Shure and Etymotic, Ultimate Ears' super.fi models are universal-fit products that don't require custom earmolds; they will be sold off-the-shelf with "fit kits" that include four different sizes of rubber eartips and one pair of foam eartips. (You attach the tips that best fit your ears.) Two models will soon be available--initially via Apple's online and retail stores, Guitar Center stores, and the Ultimate Ears Web site--with a third model available later this year.

The flagship of the super.fi series is the $249 super.fi 5Pro. Aimed at both the professional and consumer markets, the 5Pro features dual, balanced armatures--one for higher frequencies, one for lower frequencies--identical to those found in the company's $550 UE-5c. Ultimate Ears says that the 5Pro provides a balanced, neutral response. With a proper seal, they should also provide approximately -26 decibels of noise isolation.

The super.fi series also includes a model aimed mainly at consumers, the $199 super.fi 5EB. The "EB" stands for "Extended Bass," which is provided via a dual-driver architecture that consists of a single balanced armature along with a ported diaphragm for low frequencies. The company says that although the overall sound of the 5EB isn't as refined as the 5Pro, the additional bass response provided by the 5EB will appeal to many consumers, especially those who listen to hip-hop, rap, and rock. (A frequent criticism of canalphones is that even when they provide extended bass response, they don't provide the visceral "feel" of bass found in speakers and larger headphones.) Because the 5EB uses a ported diaphragm, isolation is less than the 5Pro, at approximately -16dB.

Both models are available in white or black, and both come with an accessory package that includes the aforementioned fit kit; a 1/8"-to-1/4" adapter; a 1/8" attenuator for use with overly-loud airline headphone jacks; and a wax cleaning tool (hey, you're sticking these things deep in your ears--wax happens). You also get two cases: a brushed aluminum hard case that can accommodate the headphones, adapter, attenuator, and wax tool; and a leather travel case that holds just the headphones.

The third model in the super.fi line will debut later this year at $149; Ultimate Ears did not provide additional details.


Inexpensive Impressions
One of the features of more expensive canalphones is custom-fit earmolds--you visit an audiologist or hearing aid center and have a professional take impressions of your ear canals. These impressions are then sent to the canalphone manufacturer, who makes custom earmolds that fit your ears--and your ears only--perfectly.

The advantages of these earmolds are immediately obvious once you've used them: You get a more comfortable fit and a more airtight seal, both of which have the added benefit of providing significantly better sound quality. But what many consumers don't know is that you can get custom earmolds made for most off-the-shelf canalphones, as well. The only problem is that the process isn't cheap--$75 to $125--and can be a hassle if you don't get it done through the canalphone manufacturer. (Few manufacturers offer the service for off-the-shelf models.)

Ultimate Ears aims to solve this problem with a special program for super.fi customers. The program, which should be unveiled on the company's Web site in the next few weeks, will put custom earmolds on any super.fi model for an additional cost of only $50. This fee includes a visit to a local audiologist for ear canal impressions; Ultimate Ears then gets the impressions from the audiologist, constructs customized earmolds, and ships the final product to the customer.


First Impressions
Ultimate Ears provided Playlist with a preproduction sample of the super.fi 5Pro for preliminary evaluation. The company says this early sample sounds identical to the production models that will be released this week, the only differences being minor aesthetic details. Playlist's policy is to review only products consumers will be able to buy, so we won't conduct a full review of the super.fi models until we receive production samples. However, I can provide some initial impressions of the sample I auditioned.

At first glance, the 5Pro's earpieces appear to be significantly larger than some of the other off-the-shelf canalphones on the market. They also stick out from your ears quite a bit more than models from Shure and Etymotic, leading one observer of my audition to comment that I had more than a passing resemblance to Frankenstein--I'm pretty sure she was talking about the 5Pro.

However, after a good many hours of auditioning, I was surprised at how comfortable the super.fi 5Pro earpieces were. In spite of the large size and different "fit angle"--or perhaps because of them--it was easier to forget I was wearing the 5Pro than with some of the other canalphones I've used.

I also like the 5Pro's cables, and hope that the shipping version will have similar ones. Besides the attractive gray color, the cables are thin and flexible enough that they don't exhibit much microphonics--a common issue with canalphones where bumps and scrapes of the cord are transferred up the cord and to your ears. (Because canalphones are effectively coupled to your ear canal, such scrapes and bumps often get amplified.)

Another thing I like is that the cables are only 46 inches long. Although this length may be too short for those who want to use the 5Pro with a home stereo, it's perfect for use with a portable player, which is generally going to be at waist level or higher--in other words, fairly close to your head. (When you consider the issue of microphonics, and the fact that accidentally ripping canalphones out of your ears is often quite painful, having a long cable on canalphones can be a major hassle.)

One other interesting detail about the super.fi models is that the cables are easily detachable from the earpieces. This means that if you ever have a problem with the cables, you can replace them at little cost. But even more significant is that the accessories page for the super.fi line shows "spare cables" as a $20 option, along with a picture of four different cable types.

Those who aren't headphone geeks may be surprised to hear that the topic of canalphone cables is a hotly debated one, but it's true--for various reasons, some people are quite picky about the color, composition, length (see above), and/or casing material (cloth, plastic, etc.) of their canalphone cables. The fact that Ultimate Ears plans to sell replacement cables in different materials and colors is sure to generate excitement in some quarters.

I was impressed by the sound of the 5Pro sample, which exhibited excellent detail as well as good overall balance among the treble, midrange, and bass. Although Ultimate Ears' $550 UE-5c clearly bests the 5Pro across the board, the 5Pro is still quite good at less than half the price. (And to be fair, the 5Pro sample doesn't have custom earmolds--adding them for $50 would likely close the gap somewhat.) When we do our full review of the 5Pro, we'll compare it to some of the other products in this price range, such as the Etymotic ER-4P and the new Shure E4c, which we also expect to receive soon.
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准备入一条。

好像没看到白色的啊?
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下面是引用lsx315于2005-10-23 13:09发表的:
准备入一条。

好像没看到白色的啊?

白色和黑色都在大陆有销售的呀!
只是本人以为透明色是最有气质,可惜是专卖呀!只能在美国本土一个特别指定的经销商才有销售透明色的。 [s:46]  [s:46]  [s:46]  [s:46]  [s:46]  [s:46]
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-10-27 20:01:10 | 显示全部楼层
原来也想买透明的,可是没有,只好买了个黑色的。
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下面是引用monjjyer于2005-09-28 17:27发表的:
5pro几乎没什么人听过吧
我只有E4C,觉得声音倒不错,但是现在有掉漆问题,而且不止我一例。如果5pro有质保,那还可以信赖。安润之类的行货坏了可以换新的。

shure的没有换新品这么一说,我今天刚问完,只有保修
真正的艺术家是不会骄傲的,他惋惜地看到这一事实:艺术没有尽头.他感觉到自己离目标还多么遥远.
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shure的没有换新品这么一说,我今天刚问完,只有保修

我问了一下卖家,说是万一坏了要寄回美国修,基本是换新的,不过要出个邮费200左右。
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我问了一下卖家,说是万一坏了要寄回美国修,基本是换新的,不过要出个邮费200左右。

是不是他那批货比较早?听说后来的这批新包装的全都是江苏还是苏州哪儿的,忘了具体地址,反正是在中国产的,听说用的流水线什么的还都是国外的,只不过不知道人工方面是不是缩水了,虽然我信不过老美的产品(以前玩儿过一台avalon 737,里面卡侬头的连线都焊错了,还得拆机器重新焊,正正经经的美国原装货)但是国内的产品装配更信不过。这个姑且不说,不过生产线放到国内了,以后是不是能降一些,我也很关注e4c和ue5 pro fi,ue5国内没有代理,安润的e4c的价格又实在难以接受,我觉得怎么着也把运费保险什么的省了吧,这部分钱就不少,再观望一段吧。这么贵的玩意儿我可不敢邮购,所以关注的都是能直接买到的商家,呵呵
真正的艺术家是不会骄傲的,他惋惜地看到这一事实:艺术没有尽头.他感觉到自己离目标还多么遥远.
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  UE S.f.5PRO Clear Models 透明色 美国市场零售价格是$260美元,含销售税。
国内有没有代理商销售此型号--透明色的??
香港都没有透明色的销售!!!!
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